{"id":2334,"date":"2008-11-11T09:34:00","date_gmt":"2008-11-11T15:34:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/?p=2334"},"modified":"2008-11-11T09:34:00","modified_gmt":"2008-11-11T15:34:00","slug":"gay-marriage-and-church-state","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/?p=2334","title":{"rendered":"Gay Marriage and church &#038; state"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Humanity has a long history of freely mixing church and state, with very little boundary between the two.  Modern industrialized civilization probably has the most areligious political institutions of any in history.  Communist countries may do better on separating church and state than most western democracies, dunno.  <\/p>\n<p>Marriage has been both a political and a religious institution for a very, very long time.  Gay marriage has been rare, but not unheard of, throughout history, and has shared this two-spheres-in-one-bond nature where it has happened.  So, much as I would love the supreme court to rule that marriage is religious and thus out of bounds for the government to rule on, I know it isn&#8217;t going to happen.  I am also troubled by state recognition of clergy and tax exempt status for churches.  They seem like pretty clear violations of the first amendment to me.  <\/p>\n<p>But it is also a sensible political reality check to say that the state cannot ignore religion, because they are and always will be politically relevant.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Humanity has a long history of freely mixing church and state, with very little boundary between the two. Modern industrialized civilization probably has the most areligious political institutions of any in history. Communist countries may do better on separating church and state than most western democracies, dunno. Marriage has been both a political and a &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/?p=2334\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Gay Marriage and church &#038; state&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2334","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2334","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2334"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2334\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2334"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2334"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2334"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}