{"id":2332,"date":"2008-11-09T10:27:00","date_gmt":"2008-11-09T16:27:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/?p=2332"},"modified":"2008-11-09T10:27:00","modified_gmt":"2008-11-09T16:27:00","slug":"on-blame-and-prop-8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/?p=2332","title":{"rendered":"On blame and prop 8"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A few points.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>I refuse to criticize those fighting for justice for pushing too hard, too fast, or poor word choice.  No crucifying Gavin because he got used in pro-prop-8 ads.  He was right.  It is going to happen.  If not him, they would have picked another poster child.\n<li>To those surprised by the way the black vote** went, I wonder why.\n<ul>\n<li>30*% were on the side of justice, which is cool.  And it means that alot more than just the gay blacks see that there&#8217;s injustice at work.\n<li>70*% were not.\n<ul>\n<li>Christian churches are a cornerstone of many\/most african american communities.  Many (not all) christian churches hate the &#8216;mos.\n<li>Black culture is justifiably paranoid about white oppression and the association of the queer mainstream with white is not at all new.\n<li>The black people I&#8217;ve interacted with at work have all been less culturally sensitive about my queerness than the whites.  <\/ul>\n<\/ul>\n<li>blame is not helpful.  Identifying groups to work on\/with is.  I believe the poll is probably correct and that African American probably did vote for prop 8 at a much higher rate than other race culture groups.  This is useful information.  This is a population we can and should contact.\n<li>The Mormon church** officially encouraged its members to promote discrimination.  Their church deserves to have their faces rubbed in this fact.  It will not work in their evangelical favor in the US.  I&#8217;ll be protesting outside their oakland temple this morning.\n<li>Everything I&#8217;ve heard says that &#8220;No on 8&#8221; was mismanaged, and sorry to say it folks, but spent it&#8217;s money in terrible ways.  Learn the lesson.  Do better next time.  And don&#8217;t put the same people in charge.  They had a commanding lead, lost the entire undecided vote and a fair bit of the people that initially agreed with them.  This is mind bogglingly bad campaigning.  You have to consider your audience and reach out to the undecided.  Uh.\n<\/ul>\n<p>* = (according to exit poll data)<br \/>\n** = Jon Stewart&#8217;s comments about oppressees becoming oppressors are very relevant.  Think about it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few points. I refuse to criticize those fighting for justice for pushing too hard, too fast, or poor word choice. No crucifying Gavin because he got used in pro-prop-8 ads. He was right. It is going to happen. If not him, they would have picked another poster child. To those surprised by the way &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/?p=2332\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;On blame and prop 8&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2332","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2332","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2332"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2332\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2332"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2332"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2332"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}