{"id":183,"date":"2002-07-06T11:14:00","date_gmt":"2002-07-06T16:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/?p=183"},"modified":"2002-07-06T11:14:00","modified_gmt":"2002-07-06T16:14:00","slug":"just-friends","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/?p=183","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;just friends&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I decided this was an obnoxiously long comment, so I turned it into a post of my own.  <a href=\"http:\/\/shoebox_bird.livejournal.com\/\" class=\"lj-user\">shoebox_bird<\/a> posted <a href=\"http:\/\/www.livejournal.com\/talkread.bml?journal=shoebox_bird&#038;itemid=34698\">the entry that got me thinking on this topic<\/a>: Can women and men be just friends and what happens to friendship with men for women if\/when they get married. <\/p>\n<p><!--more bask in my sage wisdom, or something-->Well, obviously this isn&#8217;t targeted at me, per se, but it does bring up an interesting question.  So, I&#8217;m pretty physically affectionate with my close female friends who are open to it, and I am pretty hesitant in alot of cases to go on giving the casual affectionate backrubs and the like to them.  <\/p>\n<p>I mean, obviously this is something that&#8217;s physically, but not sexually, intimate.  And as such, I want to be careful not to invade people&#8217;s space and be like that obnoxiously clingy person who hugs me inappropriately, and won&#8217;t.  stop.  touching.  me.  But I also try to consider how the spouse will react.  So, I do tend to be a little more cautious about that kind of thing with my married\/partnered female friends than the unmarried ones.<\/p>\n<p>But, to take the question and twist it appropriately, &#8220;Can I be &#8216;just&#8217; friends with a guy?&#8221;.  I think I manage pretty well with my straight friends.  But I don&#8217;t have alot of straight male friends, probably because around a generic guy, I have the showoff\/flirting urge, and at the same time, I don&#8217;t want to offend\/discomfit said generic guy or any observers for that matter.  So, to avoid the internal tension, unless they&#8217;re really exceptionally cool, I avoid straight guys, especially the ones I&#8217;m attracted to.  <\/p>\n<p>As for gay guys, single and coupled, it&#8217;s easiest if there&#8217;s no sexual\/romantic attraction either way (like, say <a href=\"http:\/\/tardis.livejournal.com\/\" class=\"lj-user\">tardis<\/a>), but I can think of examples of good friends where we have both one-sided interest (separate examples for each of the two possible permutations), and mutual attraction that we don&#8217;t\/won&#8217;t act on.  Plus all the typical ambiguities. =)  <\/p>\n<p>Abstracting out the individual (a quintessentially foolish simplification for this question, but I&#8217;ll roll with it anyway =), symmetric setups are easier, with the lack of attraction being easier than mutual attraction.   When it comes to the asymmetric setups, it&#8217;s easier to start friendships with those who are attracted to me, but I find the friendships with those I&#8217;m attracted to more rewarding (go fig).<\/p>\n<p>In summary, is it impossible to be friends when attraction rears its head? No, but it is harder.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I decided this was an obnoxiously long comment, so I turned it into a post of my own. shoebox_bird posted the entry that got me thinking on this topic: Can women and men be just friends and what happens to friendship with men for women if\/when they get married.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-183","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/183","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=183"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/183\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=183"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=183"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cheerfulchaotic.crazycrew.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=183"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}